Attention Podcasters: Important

Ninjadmin · Attention Podcasters: Important

ok i was gonna do this myself, but it would take fucking ages

we should put our shows on the CoolestRadio server as a first step

how do you do this?

1. Download an FTP program

http://www.smartftp.com/ is a good one for the pc

2. Get in contact with me and i'll make an account for you

3. Upload your stuff onto the server. You can also upload your tunes or pretty much whatever you like as long as you don't get us into trouble.

4. You can then link to it at www.coolestradio.com/radioshows/yourshow

i'll get the ones like sly and juxtaposeur who have only put one or 2 shows up, but it would be a lot easier if prolific peeps like breem and krzzle did their own since we got about 50 and that would take about 2 days solid uploading from my puter

wraeth

S'cool

can we link it to iTunes stream?

Ninjadmin

i dunno

we do need a player, but it's quite hard to do

bristle-krs

like i said before, it would be useful to sort out the rss side of this FIRST, and upload things in sequence, otherwise it's just a random bunch of files

bristle-krs

nad how important is a player? i'm not sure i see the benefits of putting too much effort into that straight away

Ninjadmin

how can we sort rss out?

can someone else do it

if we get a player, we can just have a link on teh blog to play a random radio show

and if we have them online we can make a tcre page which is just a load of links to all the shows like on redZero radio or summat

bristle-krs

basically i applaud your enthusiasm, but i do think some things need to be thought through first - and, becuse we are just all mongs on a mong board, doing this for fun not glory or cash money or $ony freebies, sometimes that means things will go a bit slower than you'd like...

but we've done a fuck load more than supposedly bigger/better/richer sites

no pissing around deciding on who gets what fancy job title or whatever, no fucking about stressing over royalties nonsense and shizz...

double but for the next stage to work, well, it has to work. no use just throwing time and effort into it and hoping.

that means we need to know what we're trying to do (and why, often helps), then make sure we gots the knowhow to achieve it, then execute it.

so, with the radio, what i say is:

* it needs rss sorted.

* before we sort rss, we need to know what we're doing with it! are we providing a single, everything-we-broadcast subscription link? or links to individual shows also? or even subscription based on blog categories?

* we also need to make sure all the podcasters in the network are interested in this - because if they're not uploading their own shows to the blog, then its more work for someone else.

* stats & techy shit - we need a system in place that allows up to keep up to date with stats for the podcasts through the blog. we need to be able to keep track of our stats. this is IMPORTANT!

* 'house rules' - it's been difficult even on the podomatic page, where there's only two people with access to it, to maintain any sense of coherent, legible house style. i think we need to sort out some basic sense of house style - not just for the radio stuff, but the whole blog - to keep it neat, tidy, readable. what's acceptable on a bulletin board often looks fucking awful on a blog, and may well turn people off if they're not already familiar with tcte. by house rules i mean some basic standards - caps/no caps, tracklisting formats etc. personally i'd prefer it if everyone just followed my format syle seeing as it's fucking perfect

but i know we can't always have our own way. but it would be good to have stuff looking halfway readable, preferably without loads of typos and bad links.

* if we are putting up all our shows, ever, then we need to work out how we can upload stuff logically, and in sequence.

* plus some other stuff, but hey, that's gotta be food for thought for 2am

wraeth

I agree with Krs

The RSS is important. At the moment I get the podcast updated automatically into iTunes complete with tracklistings and other info.

Yesterday I got Hideousradio17 - but I had to download it (that was quite quick) onto desktop. Then I had to move it into the KidHideous folder on iTunes library. Then I had to import the file into iTunes. Then I had to tag it. And I still have to refer back to the blog/forum for the track listing. There's probably a quicker way of doing all that, but it still was like moving back to the pre-podcast days of TCRE.

I might carry on doing it for ninj's shows but if everyone was doing them like that it'd mean loads of work and I'd likely overlook some etc.

So I definitely think we need to get RSS sorted first.

My two pennorth

tangerinebreem

What url should I have in Itunes to get the podcasts? - Cos all I have had from the coolest thing ever feed I've alwas had for about a month and a half is the soundclash. None of my shows, or J's or the new hideous radios.

Also, I keeps checking the blog, but that doesn't seem to get all the shows on it. I have missed a few things cos I don't always check the forum when I am busy. I used to just make time to listen through to the itunes feed...

Not having a go, just wondering like...

tangerinebreem · Re: Attention Podcasters: Important

wraeth

t'breem, you have to go to each podcasters podcast page (including your own) and subscribe to iTunes from there for each one. Then they all just automatically update into iTunes (or you can manually do it if there's a new show you want to get before the automatic update).

tangerinebreem

tangerinebreem

tangerinebreem

wraeth

I've got that FTP programme now - Ninj, you got to set me up an account or summat?

Ninjadmin

reet, i've set up breem and derian accounts

re: the rss feed, yeah, we should sort that out, i'll look into it. i think you can do it on wordpress but i'm not sure

what i would like as well, would be a link at the top of the forum where you click, and it's playing random podcasts, so we can all listen to the same thing at the same time, but maybe that's for another day

re: the stats i quite shamefully have forgotten how to login and keep forgetting to request a new password, which im doing now i'll have that locked

i just set up an account derian

Ninjadmin

i just got the stats access sorted, insane amount of graphs

tangerinebreem

bristle-krs

breemy:

yeah, that's just me and ninja being slack, other stuff on etc. it's not a technical fault or anything, it's just i kinda gave up on uploading stuff to the podomatic page cuz we seemed to be on the verge of cracking the blog site - plus you and ninja were knocking out shows pretty much every day and it got to be a right pain uploading and deleting and amending and faffing etc

see, everytime a new show goes up, that means another show has to come down; and sometimes the size thing means two shows have to come down; so that means first deleting associated media, editing show notes, then uploading new show, etc.

so, um, yeah - me slack

i'll get on and upload the latest shows though.

bristle-krs

see, this is why i think its important to figure out what we wanna do first, before we end up spending loadsa time and effort bodging; the podomatic thing worked fine whilst we were ambling along, but as soon as we hit a head of steam and were banging out more than a show every week or so, and it becomes a lot more effort to keep on top of it.

house rules/style/whatever would mean everybody should have a fair idea of what needs to be done and how to do it, and it can all be shared out on a whoever-is-around basis.

in terms of rss: all we need to do is get a bit o'software or use an online app that generates an rss feed. basically then we can host the mp3 file, and stick up the rss feed associated with it, and then podcatchers/itunes can use the rss to check for updates & locate the relevent mp3s. it's nothing particularly magic, so long as we're generating the rss feed(s) in the way we want to.

stats: as well as being handy for just making ya feel good, they're also essential for keeping an eye on which files are most popular, for tracking links to us etc. atm traffic shouldn't really be a problem, but it never hurts to be forewarned! all it takes is a direct link to an mp3 on some fastmoving blog or board, and we could be fucked and not know why.

bristle-krs

right, the latest breem, josh & ninja shows all uploaded to the tcre podomatic page

tangerinebreem

I feel like a twat but

anyway

wraeth

Ninjadmin

wraeth

Got my account details - cheers ninj

Now I need to know the server domain name or IP address

and

what port number (unless it's the default 21)

and is it normal FTP or is it secured etc?

Ninjadmin

no idea

wraeth

I can't upload anything unless I know where to upload it to

I'm gonna try ftp.coolestradio.com and see if that works ...

wraeth

Seems to!

Ninj can you check to see if you've got it? Ta

Ninjadmin

try "good.dreamhost.com"

wraeth

It's transferring to ftp.coolestradio.com now

Looks like it's going to take a while though. I suggest anyone doing this zips or RARs it first

Ninjadmin

breem was trying to do this yesterday and we couldn't work it out

wraeth

It's nearly halfway there

I just used the tutorials tbh

wraeth

OK - transfer successful

You should really make a folder for each of us ninj, otherwise we'll all just be dropping em into the main ftp folder

Can you check to see if you can find them - it's a show, a playlist in Word and the artwork jpg

edit: dropped a few tracks across to you an all

tangerinebreem

wraeth

tangerinebreem

Aye, but I can't use smart ftp cos I'm on a mac innit.

wraeth

tangerinebreem

I thought I had uploaded them, but he can't see them.

I can log on to the server but I don't see any files on it (ninj showed me a screen shot of what I should see.) I appear to have put the files somewhere, cos I was logged onto to something, made a folder called 'tagerinebreem' and put two shows in it. If I log on again I can download those files but as I say I don't think ninj can see them.

I've tried multiple log-ins (i mean server addresses)....

When you do it, do you see loads of files in the remote window?

tangerinebreem

I should add, I'm using fetch and I've also tried filezilla with the same results each time.

wraeth

If you look on the thread called 'i'm getting a cold' you'll see the rest of the conversation ninj and I had about it.

Basically, with smartftp you can see the ftp folders and files and access them. Mine are all sitting there. I've a feeling ninj isn't sure where they are, so I suggested he did a search of the whole server for one specific file name of mine.

I haven't heard anything since

Ninjadmin

i gave up cos i couldn't find search

wraeth

I might have to get my bruv to help

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