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bob

who will accept a musical challenge

to write a short piece of 12 tone on their laptop - or whatever is used now. and post on here?

if i ever live to retire that's what i hope to do with my retirement. write one 12 tone song that i like.

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Twelve-tone technique (also dodecaphony and, especially in British usage, twelve-note composition) is a method of musical composition devised by Arnold Schoenberg. The technique is a means of ensuring that all 12 notes of the chromatic scale are sounded as often as one another in a piece of music. All 12 notes are thus given more or less equal importance, and the music avoids being in a key. The technique was tremendously influential on composers in the mid-20th century.
Ninjadmin

that will be very difficult for me, i'll give it a shot,
bob

i can sand you some private torrents for 12 tone albums i like if you need inspiration or that.
bob

i'm learning 12 tone - got thru first 5 pages without difficulty. and listening to bach
bob

if that's too difficlult what about a dnb mashup of a bucley song - hallelujah or i never asked to be your mountain [- by tim :-/]
bob

oh go-on.
Ninjadmin

i've been so lazy

in the last 2 weeks i've made about 1 minute of music

if you give me a link to download that song i can put it over some dnb no probs
wraeth

bob wrote:
if that's too difficlult what about a dnb mashup of a bucley song - hallelujah or i never asked to be your mountain [- by tim :-/]


Nick Cave's hallelujah is better
bob

http://www.torrentz.com/80795398bca3d628db1edabd9a71d90d96ce5ae7 famous song!

http://www.torrentz.com/f8f2f15ea2ede35b9c10a1cc0aafa4fb01678b69 track 5. i like it - it's about him not wanting to look after his kid
wraeth

Don't do torrentz, sorry bob
bob

i dunno - but jeff buckley is all burley but sweet [and he drowned young - ffs "drowned"]
bob

is that alright ninjadmin - i don't know how else to link to it
bob

Derian wrote:
Don't do torrentz, sorry bob
you should get onto oink tho - there's no problem with viruses there - i think.
wraeth

bob wrote:
Derian wrote:
Don't do torrentz, sorry bob
you should get onto oink tho - there's no problem with viruses there - i think.


Tis more about security than viruses tbh bob
bob

what security problems are there

how do you steal music then
wraeth

The security thing is more about vulnerability if your system isn't secure. But also there's no anonymity

I get music from myspace, multiply etc. Also from here: http://skreemr.com/
Ninjadmin

i'll get on it bob
bob

Ninjadmin wrote:
i'll get on it bob
wicked.
bob

Ninjadmin wrote:
i'll get on it bob
any progress?
Ninjadmin

i'll do it now

it may not be that good, but i'm just downloading jeff buckley now
bob

wraeth

Ninjadmin wrote:
i'm just downloading jeff buckley now






In't it meant to be Tim?
Ninjadmin

i thought tim was his dad :?

bob yo cunt, you never told me the song was 7 minutes long

it's a beautiful song tho, i have a 3 minute version
bob

yeah it is. you probably won't like the tim one as much, tho i do really like it
wraeth

Ninjadmin wrote:
i thought tim was his dad :?

bob yo cunt, you never told me the song was 7 minutes long

it's a beautiful song tho, i have a 3 minute version


Yeah that's right - but I thought bob wanted Tim's version of hallelujah and the other one ... probably got it wrong though
bob

i don't like alot of indie bootlegs - even the white stripes get on my nerves. but it's not like the buckleys are really indie imo.
bob

did you finish it ninjadmin? i've gotta stop "surfing" soon.
Ninjadmin

it's kind of shite

i'llupload what i did
bob



nevermind eh.
bob

no i mean - if you're not uploading it elsewhere send me a private torrent - to the address i signed up here with.
bob

is this going to happen tonite btw?
bob

bob wrote:
is this going to happen tonite btw?
oh maaaannn. i am such a sux0r. i've bveenb waiting on this for hours

Ninjadmin

sorryi passed out in a heap

i doubt what i did was any good, i did save it tho
bob



yeah i am intersted if it turned out like shit. just vicarious living really.

Ninjadmin

no it's too crap
bob



oh well
Ninjadmin

sorry dude

it's like the musical equivalent of a drunk]]

if you are bored again listen to my whole back catalogue
bob

i am now too much of a waster go be bored.
Ninjadmin

here is a really terrible remix i made drunk

http://coolestradio.com/mp3s/hallelujah.mp3
bob

i like it!

it doesn't make any sense and did make me laugh. 'course you lose the pauses and that in the song, but IMO you bring out something i'm not sure what - you make his voice sound more tonal or something.
Ninjadmin

i may have a proper crack at it sober and stuff

it's a beautiful song
wraeth

I listened to it

I'd like to hear a sober one an all though.

It's a lovely song
DrJ

One aspect of creating twelve-tone music is the combinatory theory, whereby each hexachord of the twelve-tone row is combined simultaneously, thus ensuring that the piece is atonal. This can extent to various permutations of the row, i.e. in different transpositions and retrograde and inversion (and the inversion of the retrograde).

This can also be used in smaller cells (i.e. tri- and tetrachords).

One interesting thing Elliot Carter introduced was, was that, once all the twelve tones has been introduced in a piece, various segments (all the various aforementioned -chords) can essentially be used as artificial modes.
Ninjadmin

have u ever tried to make anything like that drJ?

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