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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: The UNTHINKABLE!!!! Reply with quote

we got caught using pirated vbulletin software, so that forum has been wiped out by dreamhost

so we are back here for the moment

i just got a pretty harsh email from someone who works for vbulletins intellectual property department, and they were saying that even if we buy the vbulletin licence we probably won't get our posts back

that was a fucking good idea eh?

ideas? do people want to buy vbulletin? i thought it was fun, but i'm a bit pissed off that this happened, and it is something we should have thought about

fucks sake, pre planning prevents piss poor performance

so not only did we lose 2 months worth of posts, we are worse off than we were before we went to vbulletin since we have alienated krs and derian in doing so




my idea is that we do a fundraising drive to buy vbulletin outright since we have the skins and everything,and it was cool, but this time we are not doing anything on the fly like last time
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey hey

the only reason I know about this is cos I happened to click on a random rugby thread on MATB, just a few minutes ago

I'm not alienated, it's just that TCTE was something special for me, escape from the shit you get everywhere else

TCTE, the concept of TCTE, is yours Ninj
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So did anyone back up the forum? If we get a vbulletin licence, can we restore the database?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dreamhost backs up the forum, but this email was very harsh, along the lines of 'even if you did buy a licence then you probably won't get the stuff you made on pirate software back
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derian wrote:
hey hey

the only reason I know about this is cos I happened to click on a random rugby thread on MATB, just a few minutes ago

I'm not alienated, it's just that TCTE was something special for me, escape from the shit you get everywhere else

TCTE, the concept of TCTE, is yours Ninj


i'm feeling a bit stupid at the moment

specially since krs told me about 3 times that something like this would happen, and i was like 'nah it won't man'
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

firky is going to be taken out behind the chemical shed and shot at dawn
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ninjadmin wrote:
Derian wrote:
hey hey

the only reason I know about this is cos I happened to click on a random rugby thread on MATB, just a few minutes ago

I'm not alienated, it's just that TCTE was something special for me, escape from the shit you get everywhere else

TCTE, the concept of TCTE, is yours Ninj


i'm feeling a bit stupid at the moment

specially since krs told me about 3 times that something like this would happen, and i was like 'nah it won't man'


At the end of the day, we're here cos of you and the concept of TCTE.

YOU and TCTE

And those two things don't change, and no-one will be saying 'told you so' - it's happened, OK, plan B.

Did we lose a lot of creative stuff in the new board? Or was it mainly commentary on moving stuff across?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i blogged all of the radio shows so that isn't a problem

you know, same as always, there were some cool threads full of pictures and smilies etc

a couple of stories.....
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This piratereports.com is a bit iffy imo if you have a look.

How the fuck did they get on our case?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dunno

it's probably 4 or 5 internet geeks sitting in the office all day trawling through the web to find stuff they can shut down......
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ninjadmin wrote:
i dunno

it's probably 4 or 5 internet geeks sitting in the office all day trawling through the web to find stuff they can shut down......


Well yeah

But what set em on us

We're so tiny in the scheme of things.

But what now?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i reckon they must just look at hundreds of sites and check if they are using official software or not

for here we either buy vbulletin or just ressurect this board

vbulletin did have a lot of cool features, but it costs about 300 pounds a year.....
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just got an email from dreamhost, and it seems to boil down to that we were caught using pirate vbulletin so the forum has been suspended. if we buy vbulletin we could probably get it back, but if we don't cooperate we could have the whole vbulltein account deleted (which includes all the radio shows and tunes we are hosting, blog etc)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not bothered either way. If vbulletin + a fiver from us all per annum, that's fine by me. If coming back here, that's fine by me too.

What's more important to me is letting everyone know what's going on; big up changing the logo back btw.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ninjadmin wrote:
i just got an email from dreamhost, and it seems to boil down to that we were caught using pirate vbulletin so the forum has been suspended. if we buy vbulletin we could probably get it back, but if we don't cooperate we could have the whole vbulltein account deleted (which includes all the radio shows and tunes we are hosting, blog etc)


I just cross posted there ^^

F*ck.

But surely dreamhost have the backups for the blog etc PRIOR to us starting the vbulletin forum aspect?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ninjadmin wrote:
i just got an email from dreamhost, and it seems to boil down to that we were caught using pirate vbulletin so the forum has been suspended. if we buy vbulletin we could probably get it back, but if we don't cooperate we could have the whole vbulltein account deleted (which includes all the radio shows and tunes we are hosting, blog etc)


I just cross posted there ^^

F*ck.

But surely dreamhost have the backups for the blog etc PRIOR to us starting the vbulletin forum aspect?


everything is still working perfectly except the forum which they have removed cos it was breaking the law

they were really nice about it, i like dreamhost and i want to renew with them, i wouldn't be too sure about getting anything from the past few months on vbulletin back, because as far as the copyright people are concerned it's criminal activity

this forum is cool with me, i would like vbulletin and i don't mind chucking a few quid in, but realistically the ost will be split between about 5 people so it will be getting on for 50 pound a year.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can chuck in a fiver or tenner if it helps-would be more but very broke at the mo.
Thats a bastard-made me realise how much I like TCTE when it was gone-a bit like parents!
Can't offer much in the way of other help as don't understand much tecchy stuff. sure will all be reet though
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

50 pounds a year
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ninjadmin wrote:
Derian wrote:
Ninjadmin wrote:
i just got an email from dreamhost, and it seems to boil down to that we were caught using pirate vbulletin so the forum has been suspended. if we buy vbulletin we could probably get it back, but if we don't cooperate we could have the whole vbulltein account deleted (which includes all the radio shows and tunes we are hosting, blog etc)


I just cross posted there ^^

F*ck.

But surely dreamhost have the backups for the blog etc PRIOR to us starting the vbulletin forum aspect?


everything is still working perfectly except the forum which they have removed cos it was breaking the law

they were really nice about it, i like dreamhost and i want to renew with them, i wouldn't be too sure about getting anything from the past few months on vbulletin back, because as far as the copyright people are concerned it's criminal activity

this forum is cool with me, i would like vbulletin and i don't mind chucking a few quid in, but realistically the ost will be split between about 5 people so it will be getting on for 50 pound a year.


I'm in - I can't stand the thought of using the crappy myfreeforum interface again. If we get the posts back we get the posts back... If we don't we don't.

Let's do a sign up thread so we know how will chuck in and just do it.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ninjadmin wrote:
firky is going to be taken out behind the chemical shed and shot at dawn


If we do that, we'll have a vbulletin licence and me and thee going 'do you know how to work this?...'

'er...'

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd chip in to get a vbulletin licence.

i liked the layout much better
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a bugger. Anything TI can do to help, just say. £300 for vb sounds steep. Have you checked TAZ? There may be a cheaper way of doing it. If you're not a member I'll start a thread if you want. I wonder how vb found out? It could be just bad luck. If it was TI I'd be looking for a vindictive nerd, but everyone loves TCTE...
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It wasn't pirated was it? I just thought we didn't have a licence which means no support yada yada

Fuck, that's canny harsh.

It is about £90pa for VB I think.
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I reckon someone must have grassed us up as there's no way there would have known.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is about £90pa for VB I think.


That's what I heard. A bit more if you want to pay less in subsequent years. BTW you'll almost certainly get your stuff back. It's just sitting on hard drive somewhere waiting for you to stump up the cash. They may huff and puff a bit, but that's just flannel.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soreenkid wrote:
It wasn't pirated was it? I just thought we didn't have a licence which means no support yada yada

Fuck, that's canny harsh.

It is about £90pa for VB I think.


£90 is fair do's I reckon - We'll be able to easy afford that between us innit

It did say 'nulled by someone or other' at the bottom which I thought reminded me of what it used to say when I loaded up copied amiga games back in the day....
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

someone has just offered us 50 pounds towards the licence (they want to stay anonymous)

if it's only 90 pounds a year then we should have bought it in the 1st place, for some reason i thought it was a few hundred

ideally we get everyone to put in the same amount, but that may be difficult

i'll look into setting up a paypal account for TCTE after my pizza
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will put in a rubber Czech for a tenner.

And where is KRS anyway?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does anyone have a link for the costs etc?

i don't think anyone should chip in more than 20 pounds

and needless to say we need to keep a record of who has put what in on the main forum
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ninjadmin wrote:
needless to say we need to keep a record of who has put what in on the main forum


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ninjadmin wrote:
needless to say we need to keep a record of who has put what in on the main forum




well it would be bit of a cunts trick to just accept donations and not tell people where their money is going......
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ninjadmin wrote:
someone has just offered us 50 pounds towards the licence (they want to stay anonymous)


That Bill Gates eh? What a good guy...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ninjadmin wrote:
does anyone have a link for the costs etc?


https://www.vbulletin.com/order/index.php?step=1
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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£91.00 each - vBulletin (Owned License)

The owned vBulletin Forum license allows you to run the software on your site indefinitely. Along with this license, you will receive one year of free updates. Beyond the first year, you will have to pay a nominal fee, currently $30, to obtain updates for an additional year.

This license includes free support via email and on the community forum. Phone Support is not included in the license price but may be purchased for an additional cost either at the time of initial purchase, or afterwards through the Members' Area.


S' a fuckin' bargain! (compared to £300)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

$160 dollars for an owned licence

that is fuck all, specially in pounds

i reckon we should do that, that's 8 people chipping in 20 dollars, or about 13 pounds

we already have about 4 pledges......
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But get a different colour innit, I got the blue confused with another website I post on.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll chuck in my bit as well

Ninj, can you check the blog - was playing one of t'breem's radio shows just now and it suddenly stopped ... now none of the coolestradio shows can be located by iTunes but I can play em OK from source (i.e. now playing t'breem's OK direct from his podcast).
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But get a different colour innit, I got the blue confused with another website I post on.


firky made 3 different skins which were nothing like that place
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh and krs has gone back to blogging cos forums were making him angry again (is my interpretation)


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